1 00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:22,230 welcome to nasa headquarters in 2 00:00:26,710 --> 00:00:24,720 washington d.c i'm steve cole with the 3 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:26,720 office of communications we're here 4 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:28,720 today to give you a preview of nasa's 5 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:31,199 next earth observing satellite the 6 00:00:35,670 --> 00:00:33,600 landsat data continuity mission 7 00:00:38,389 --> 00:00:35,680 scheduled to launch next month in just 8 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:38,399 one month from vandenberg air force base 9 00:00:41,670 --> 00:00:39,840 in california 10 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:41,680 we have four panelists to talk with you 11 00:00:47,350 --> 00:00:43,600 today and to answer your questions about 12 00:00:50,310 --> 00:00:47,360 the mission which we call ldcm 13 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:50,320 our first panelist is dave jarrett 14 00:00:55,510 --> 00:00:52,800 who's ldcm program executive here at 15 00:00:58,549 --> 00:00:55,520 nasa headquarters 16 00:01:00,790 --> 00:00:58,559 ken schwer ldcm project manager at 17 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:00,800 goddard space flight center in greenbelt 18 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:02,559 maryland 19 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:06,000 jim irons ldcm project scientist also at 20 00:01:10,230 --> 00:01:07,840 nasa goddard 21 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:10,240 and matthew larson the associate 22 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:12,960 director for climate and land use change 23 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:15,520 at the u.s geological survey in western 24 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:17,280 virginia 25 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:18,880 after our presentations we'll take 26 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:21,040 questions from the media here in the 27 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,200 auditorium on the phone lines and from 28 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:25,119 you watching online 29 00:01:29,230 --> 00:01:26,799 to ask questions 30 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:29,240 use the hashtag 31 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:31,920 asknasa on twitter 32 00:01:35,109 --> 00:01:33,840 you can also find out more about the 33 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:35,119 mission 34 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:43,109 landsat 35 00:01:47,429 --> 00:01:44,880 so we'll start the briefing 36 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:47,439 with dave jarrett thank you steve good 37 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:49,520 afternoon we're very happy to be here 38 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:51,360 today to brief you 39 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:53,759 on the ldcm mission as we head down the 40 00:01:58,389 --> 00:01:56,560 home stretch to launch next month 41 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:58,399 nasa's earth science division is pleased 42 00:02:02,550 --> 00:01:59,680 to work with the department of the 43 00:02:04,709 --> 00:02:02,560 interior's u.s geological survey and our 44 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:04,719 industry and research partners 45 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:06,960 to continue the landsat legacy with the 46 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:10,560 launch of our new ldcm observatory 47 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:12,400 nasa's earth observing program is 48 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:15,200 dedicated to the global observations of 49 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:17,760 the entire earth system for both basic 50 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:20,560 science and new applications 51 00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:22,800 together with other u.s agencies and 52 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:25,520 foreign partners we work to develop 53 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:27,440 and incorporate new and innovative 54 00:02:32,229 --> 00:02:29,440 observing capabilities into all of our 55 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:32,239 missions including ldcm 56 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:33,920 the new instruments to be flown on this 57 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:36,640 mission the operational land imager and 58 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:39,040 the thermal infrared sensor are an 59 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:41,760 evolutionary step in sensor design 60 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:44,080 with improved capabilities over previous 61 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:46,080 landsat missions 62 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:48,879 ldcm is the latest collaboration between 63 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:51,120 nasa and the usgs 64 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:53,360 the landsat program is very important 65 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:56,000 endeavor for the nation in the world 66 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:58,000 that has been going strong now for over 67 00:03:02,470 --> 00:02:59,440 four decades 68 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:02,480 as you can see in the landsat timeline 69 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:04,400 just this past summer we celebrated the 70 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:07,680 40th anniversary of the landsat 1 launch 71 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:11,200 at the museum here in washington 72 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:13,599 ldcm follows closely on the heels of the 73 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:16,640 retirement of the landsat 5 last month a 74 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:18,640 remarkable mission that has provided a 75 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:21,920 wealth of data for the past 28 years 76 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:24,720 and landsat 7 continues to provide 77 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:28,640 valuable data since its launch in 1999. 78 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:31,760 ldcm will deliver more data per day 79 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:33,760 than any of the previous landsat 80 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:35,200 missions 81 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:38,560 in 2008 the usgs adopted a policy of 82 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:40,959 making landsat data available for free 83 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:42,640 over the internet 84 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:45,120 since then a much wider community has 85 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:47,120 had free and open access 86 00:03:51,670 --> 00:03:50,319 to the 40-year landsat data record 87 00:03:53,589 --> 00:03:51,680 this policy 88 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:53,599 will continue to give the united states 89 00:03:57,990 --> 00:03:55,920 and the world a better understanding 90 00:03:59,110 --> 00:03:58,000 of changes occurring to the planet's 91 00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:59,120 surface 92 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:00,959 do both 93 00:04:05,429 --> 00:04:03,840 natural and human impacts 94 00:04:07,589 --> 00:04:05,439 i'd like to take this opportunity to 95 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:07,599 give special thanks to our colleagues at 96 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:09,599 the usgs 97 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:12,000 goddard ball aerospace 98 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:14,080 hammers and the united launch alliance 99 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:15,280 for all of their hard work and 100 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:16,799 dedication 101 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:18,959 in getting us to this exciting point 102 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:21,280 prior to launch which is on track for 103 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:24,240 monday january or february 11th 104 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:25,919 now i'll turn it over to ken for more on 105 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:27,360 the mission 106 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:28,639 thank you dave 107 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:30,880 i am so very excited to be here today 108 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:32,320 because when this press conference 109 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:33,199 happens 110 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:35,840 that means my team is close to launch 111 00:04:40,390 --> 00:04:37,759 today the ldcm satellite is at the 112 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:40,400 vandenberg air force base in california 113 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:42,320 preparing for our launch on february 114 00:04:48,390 --> 00:04:45,680 11th and board an atlas v launch vehicle 115 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:48,400 the ldcm satellite is about 19 feet long 116 00:04:53,510 --> 00:04:51,120 and weighs about 6 000 pounds about the 117 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:53,520 size of a very large suv 118 00:04:58,070 --> 00:04:56,000 it's also considered very large for an 119 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:58,080 earth observing satellite 120 00:05:01,590 --> 00:05:00,320 my ldcm team recently completed a 121 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:01,600 three-month 122 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:03,600 comprehensive satellite environmental 123 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:05,759 test program it's where we simulated 124 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:08,240 launch and on orbit environments that's 125 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:11,120 where we shake it we inject noise and we 126 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:13,440 push the satellite to thermal extremes 127 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:15,600 all to make sure this satellite is good 128 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:17,199 to go for launch 129 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:19,120 my ldcm team which will operate the 130 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:21,360 satellite after launch is busy preparing 131 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:24,880 for and training for that exciting day 132 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:27,840 when our satellite is on orbit 133 00:05:33,029 --> 00:05:30,160 her home 134 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:33,039 the ldcm spacecraft was built by orbital 135 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:33,840 in 136 00:05:38,070 --> 00:05:36,560 gilbert arizona where both the oli and 137 00:05:41,189 --> 00:05:38,080 tears instruments were delivered and 138 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:41,199 integrated the operational land imager 139 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:43,440 oli was built by ball aerospace in 140 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:45,039 boulder colorado 141 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:47,520 the thermal infrared sensor tiers was 142 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:49,440 built by nasa's goddard space flight 143 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,320 center in greenbelt maryland over my 144 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:54,240 career i have had the wonderful 145 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:56,000 opportunity work with all of these 146 00:06:02,230 --> 00:05:58,800 organizations and they have once again 147 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:02,240 delivered excellent flight systems 148 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:04,240 the ldcm team recently completed the 149 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:06,479 satellite pre-ship review just last 150 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:08,880 month which led to the satellite being 151 00:06:14,870 --> 00:06:11,840 shipped via tractor trailer ground 152 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:14,880 transporter and arrived december 19th at 153 00:06:19,430 --> 00:06:17,360 the vandenberg air force base astrotech 154 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:19,440 processing facility 155 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:22,000 since then the ldcm spacecraft and 156 00:06:27,029 --> 00:06:24,880 instruments have completed post shipment 157 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:27,039 inspections and testing 158 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:29,440 actually today the ldcm satellite 159 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:32,400 propulsion system is being fueled and 160 00:06:37,590 --> 00:06:35,440 next week we already start operations 161 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:37,600 integrated with the atlas v launch 162 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:39,840 vehicle systems 163 00:06:44,790 --> 00:06:42,720 on the 23rd of this month the ldcm 164 00:06:47,110 --> 00:06:44,800 satellite will be encapsulated in the 165 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:47,120 atlas v payload fairing and then 166 00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:49,360 transported out to the pad on january 167 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:50,639 25th 168 00:06:55,350 --> 00:06:52,800 the atlas v launch vehicle is built by 169 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:55,360 united launch alliance ula and managed 170 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,440 by our nasa's kennedy space center 171 00:07:02,230 --> 00:06:59,520 launch services program 172 00:07:04,309 --> 00:07:02,240 the ldacm team and the atlas team though 173 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:04,319 the next few weeks will complete all the 174 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:06,560 final reviews and the mission dress 175 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:09,360 rehearsal on february 11th 176 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:11,120 the nasa goddard space flight center 177 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:14,000 role on ldcm is to manage the entire 178 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:15,440 mission for nasa's earth science 179 00:07:19,749 --> 00:07:17,520 division which includes acquiring the 180 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:19,759 spacecraft the instruments the launch 181 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:20,720 vehicle 182 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:22,720 overall mission systems engineering and 183 00:07:27,110 --> 00:07:24,960 early orbit operations 184 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:27,120 the us department of interior through 185 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:30,800 the u.s geological survey usgs 186 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:33,039 is responsible for the ground system 187 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:34,880 mission operations 188 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:36,800 and the data processing and archive 189 00:07:41,189 --> 00:07:38,240 system 190 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:41,199 after launch and nasa's initial checkout 191 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:44,240 usgs will take over operational control 192 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:46,400 of the ldn sam satellite 193 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:49,360 and distribute and archive oli and tiers 194 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:51,120 data 195 00:07:56,550 --> 00:07:54,319 once ldcm is on orbit which is 438 miles 196 00:07:58,950 --> 00:07:56,560 above our homes our satellite will 197 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,960 follow the same ground track of previous 198 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:00,240 landsats 199 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:02,560 this is to ensure the continuity of the 200 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:05,440 landsat 40-year data record 201 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:07,759 i know all of you have seen videos where 202 00:08:12,309 --> 00:08:10,639 family has recorded their child's every 203 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:12,319 birthday for a couple years couple 204 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:17,350 the changes in growth are just 205 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:18,960 captivating 206 00:08:24,790 --> 00:08:22,080 well think of this the landsat program 207 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:24,800 has been doing this every day 208 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:27,360 for 40 years 209 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:28,960 which is vital 210 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:31,120 for accommodating seven billion people 211 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:32,800 on our planet 212 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:35,039 as you can see i am very excited about 213 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:37,919 this mission and the accomplishments of 214 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:40,640 my extended ldcm team and we look 215 00:08:44,389 --> 00:08:43,120 forward to a smooth launch and a great 216 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:44,399 mission 217 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:46,240 thank you at this time i'd like to turn 218 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:48,720 over to jim who will talk about ldcm 219 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:49,760 science 220 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,640 thanks ken i share ken's excitement 221 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:54,560 about the approaching launch of the 222 00:08:59,190 --> 00:08:57,360 landsat dayton data continuity mission 223 00:09:00,630 --> 00:08:59,200 and i'd like to discuss a couple of 224 00:09:01,590 --> 00:09:00,640 reasons why 225 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:01,600 first 226 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:05,279 ldcm has a really important mission 227 00:09:10,949 --> 00:09:07,760 that will make the satellite a critical 228 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:10,959 and extremely valuable national asset 229 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:13,760 the ldcm will continue the monitoring of 230 00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:15,839 the global land surface 231 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:19,440 begun by landsat 1 40 years ago 232 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:21,680 since the launch of landsat 1 we have 233 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:22,480 seen 234 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:24,320 and we have caused 235 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:26,720 dramatic changes to the land surface to 236 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:28,880 the global land surface that continued 237 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:31,839 today at rates unprecedented in human 238 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:33,279 history 239 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:35,120 these changes are due to an increasing 240 00:09:38,710 --> 00:09:36,480 population 241 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:38,720 advancing technologies and climate 242 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:40,080 change 243 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:42,160 some examples of the far-reaching 244 00:09:45,670 --> 00:09:44,720 changes observed from landsat satellites 245 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:45,680 include 246 00:09:51,030 --> 00:09:47,920 tropical deforestation 247 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:51,040 we see here a time series of landsat 248 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:53,760 images collected over the disappearing 249 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:57,120 forest in the state of rondonio brazil 250 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:00,000 another example is urban expansion we've 251 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:03,680 been able to watch cities like las vegas 252 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:06,880 grow from year to year from space 253 00:10:11,430 --> 00:10:09,519 we've seen impacts of natural disasters 254 00:10:12,949 --> 00:10:11,440 this is mount saint helens before its 255 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:12,959 eruption 256 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:14,480 soon you'll see the 257 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:16,640 dramatic transformation of the landscape 258 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:18,800 due to the and the devastation due to 259 00:10:23,829 --> 00:10:21,120 the interruption and then we are able to 260 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:23,839 watch as the landscape recovers in the 261 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:26,320 subsequent years 262 00:10:30,710 --> 00:10:28,640 we've also looked at glacial retreat 263 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:30,720 globally this is a 264 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:33,120 example of a glacier in alaska the 265 00:10:37,430 --> 00:10:35,920 columbia glacier that has re 266 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:37,440 retreated in on 267 00:10:44,230 --> 00:10:41,120 on an annual basis as seen from landsat 268 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:44,240 and we've also seen increased use of 269 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:46,880 fresh water resources for agricultural 270 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:48,240 irrigation 271 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:50,880 these are images of the desert in saudi 272 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:52,000 arabia 273 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:55,120 where they have begun to tap deep water 274 00:11:01,430 --> 00:10:58,160 aquifers and as a result you can see in 275 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:01,440 these landsat images irrigated 276 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:04,000 agricultural fields springing up 277 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:10,069 the ldcm will extend and approve upon 278 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:13,600 the landsat record of landscape change 279 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:15,200 the resulting observations and 280 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:18,240 information will be critical to managing 281 00:11:22,949 --> 00:11:20,800 increasing demands on land resources and 282 00:11:24,949 --> 00:11:22,959 preparing for inevitable changes to the 283 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:24,959 global land surface 284 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:27,120 a second reason i'm really excited about 285 00:11:31,829 --> 00:11:29,120 the the approaching launch 286 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:31,839 is that ldcm will be the best landsat 287 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:33,920 satellite launched today the best 288 00:11:39,030 --> 00:11:36,640 landsat satellite ever in terms of the 289 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:39,040 quality and quantity of the data 290 00:11:44,150 --> 00:11:42,399 collected by the ldcm sensors 291 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:44,160 while the data will be backward 292 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:46,240 compatible with data from the earlier 293 00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:49,120 landsat satellites the operational land 294 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:52,079 imager the oli and the thermal infrared 295 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:54,079 sensor tears 296 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:56,399 both employed technological advances 297 00:12:00,470 --> 00:11:58,240 that will make the observations more 298 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:00,480 sensitive to variation 299 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:03,200 of land cover across the landscape and 300 00:12:07,910 --> 00:12:05,360 sense and more sensitive to changes in 301 00:12:10,069 --> 00:12:07,920 the land surface over time 302 00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:10,079 additionally the number of landsat 303 00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:13,040 images downlinked to the ground stations 304 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:15,279 managed by our interagency partner the 305 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:18,000 u.s geological survey 306 00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:21,040 will increase to 400 images per day a 307 00:12:24,949 --> 00:12:23,200 rate that exceeds the data collection 308 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:24,959 rate of any of the other landsat 309 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:27,200 missions 310 00:12:33,430 --> 00:12:30,639 investigators are mining the full usgs 311 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:33,440 landsat data archive for long-term and 312 00:12:38,230 --> 00:12:35,120 broad scale 313 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:38,240 studies and applications the ldcm will 314 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:40,880 increase the depth of that archive and i 315 00:12:45,269 --> 00:12:42,720 expect that ultimately hundreds of 316 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:45,279 thousands even millions of people will 317 00:12:51,509 --> 00:12:48,160 directly access these data 318 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:51,519 through the services offered by the usgs 319 00:12:55,350 --> 00:12:53,120 i further believe that the 320 00:12:57,190 --> 00:12:55,360 investigations and applications enabled 321 00:12:59,269 --> 00:12:57,200 by this access 322 00:13:01,590 --> 00:12:59,279 to the images will greatly 323 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:01,600 benefit our global society now 324 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:04,800 increasing beyond seven billion people i 325 00:13:10,550 --> 00:13:07,920 do not think it hyperbole to suggest 326 00:13:12,710 --> 00:13:10,560 that this all seven billion of us will 327 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:12,720 benefit from the results of the landsat 328 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:14,880 data continuity mission 329 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:16,880 thank you and next please let me 330 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:18,720 introduce matt larson of the u.s 331 00:13:25,269 --> 00:13:20,720 geological survey 332 00:13:26,870 --> 00:13:25,279 the department of interior share the 333 00:13:28,949 --> 00:13:26,880 enthusiasm that you've been hearing from 334 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:28,959 my colleagues here at nasa 335 00:13:33,990 --> 00:13:31,120 this uh reflects the 336 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:34,000 long-standing and close partnership that 337 00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:37,600 our agency usgs has with nasa as we've 338 00:13:42,710 --> 00:13:39,920 developed and collaborated to 339 00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:42,720 get this newest landsat mission off the 340 00:13:46,790 --> 00:13:44,320 ground quite literally 341 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:46,800 there's no other satellite program in 342 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:48,480 the history of our country or any other 343 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:50,320 country for that matter that comes close 344 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:52,560 to having the types of information and 345 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:54,560 historical continuity 346 00:13:57,350 --> 00:13:56,560 and coverage that the landsat mission 347 00:13:59,990 --> 00:13:57,360 has 348 00:14:01,910 --> 00:14:00,000 it advances our scientific understanding 349 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:01,920 of the earth service and provides 350 00:14:05,590 --> 00:14:03,920 comprehensive and impartial information 351 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:05,600 about anywhere on the terrestrial 352 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:07,920 service of the earth this is critical 353 00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:10,720 for our ability uh as a nation and for 354 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:12,639 other nations to manage our natural 355 00:14:15,829 --> 00:14:13,920 resources 356 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:15,839 you've heard some comment about our free 357 00:14:19,990 --> 00:14:17,760 data policy this is something we're very 358 00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:20,000 proud of at interior and the u.s 359 00:14:25,829 --> 00:14:23,360 geological survey in 2008 360 00:14:27,990 --> 00:14:25,839 we opened our 40-year archive of landsat 361 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:28,000 data to the public for people here in 362 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:30,720 the u.s and anywhere in the world prior 363 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:32,240 to that 364 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:35,360 time we charged for the data and it 365 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:38,560 we had an average of about 15 000 images 366 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:40,240 being downloaded and accessed on an 367 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:42,000 annual basis 368 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:43,680 since the free data policy we've seen 369 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:46,720 that number go up to about 3 million 370 00:14:49,829 --> 00:14:48,480 downloads per year as you can see on 371 00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:49,839 this graph 372 00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:51,440 it's really gone through the roof and 373 00:14:57,350 --> 00:14:54,079 what this means is that we now have a 374 00:14:59,350 --> 00:14:57,360 robust and long data set available to 375 00:15:02,150 --> 00:14:59,360 government to universities to the 376 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:02,160 private sector for analyzing land cover 377 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:04,320 land change developing applications 378 00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:07,360 scientific and resource management wise 379 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:08,639 to 380 00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:11,360 better manage our earth resources so 381 00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:13,600 here you can see an example of of one of 382 00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:16,399 those types of applications this is the 383 00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:18,959 use of landsat data to monitor the pine 384 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:20,800 bark beetles so forest researchers and 385 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:23,440 forest managers have been tracking the 386 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:26,160 expansion of this invasive pest through 387 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:28,560 the northern rockies you by using 388 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:29,839 landsat 389 00:15:33,430 --> 00:15:31,680 data another 390 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:33,440 application that's extremely important 391 00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:35,920 economically for the united states is 392 00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:38,399 the use of landsat data 393 00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:39,360 for 394 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:41,600 water resources management and what 395 00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:43,920 we've seen in the last decade or so are 396 00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:46,639 the development of of very sophisticated 397 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:49,440 but uh easily applied models using 398 00:15:55,470 --> 00:15:52,000 landsat data and thermal data from 399 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:55,480 landsat uh platforms to estimate uh the 400 00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:57,040 evapotranspiration from the earth's 401 00:16:01,509 --> 00:15:59,040 surface this is used to calibrate 402 00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:01,519 irrigated agriculture how much water do 403 00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:03,360 we need to apply to crops particularly 404 00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:05,519 in the west where water is 405 00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:08,720 under multiple competing interests not 406 00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:10,399 only does it allow us to better manage 407 00:16:14,069 --> 00:16:12,079 that water but it also allows us to 408 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:14,079 support other interests ecosystem 409 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:16,399 interests industrial 410 00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:19,040 supplies for water municipal supplies 411 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:20,959 energy for 412 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:23,279 water for cooling of power plants so 413 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:24,160 we're 414 00:16:28,389 --> 00:16:25,920 looking forward to this 415 00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:28,399 new landsat mission which as jim noted 416 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:29,279 brings 417 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:30,959 extra capabilities and enhanced 418 00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:32,320 capabilities 419 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:34,720 for the landsat 420 00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:38,240 data record and our archive and we 421 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:41,279 expect to see an uh ever increasing use 422 00:16:46,389 --> 00:16:44,160 of these data as we go forward into this 423 00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:46,399 next phase of the landsat mission thank 424 00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:48,720 you very much and back to you steve 425 00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:50,959 okay thank you to our panelists and now 426 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:53,680 we'll take questions um 427 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:56,880 any press in the room with questions 428 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,839 at this point otherwise we'll 429 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:01,279 check with our folks who are listening 430 00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:03,600 on the phone line and again to remind 431 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:05,919 people who are watching 432 00:17:10,150 --> 00:17:09,120 um on online you can ask questions via 433 00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:10,160 twitter 434 00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:13,199 by just using the hashtag ask 435 00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:18,470 okay we have one question from twitter 436 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:20,959 uh this i think gets to the issue of 437 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:24,240 the improved resolution of 438 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:25,679 landsat 439 00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:28,240 being able to see closer than other 440 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:31,280 other satellites that nasa has can ldcm 441 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:39,350 no absolutely not 442 00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:41,760 we collect data with a spatial 443 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,120 resolution of 30 meters that is 444 00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:47,520 every picture element or pixel in a 445 00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:49,039 landsat image 446 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:51,120 represents an area approximately a 447 00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:53,520 hundred feet by a hundred feet 448 00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:55,679 and that's about the size of a baseball 449 00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:56,799 diamond 450 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:00,000 so we are looking at the collective 451 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:02,720 change that occurs across the landscape 452 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:04,720 at a broader scale 453 00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:06,400 we not so much look in people's 454 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:08,799 backyards we look at their cities and 455 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:10,000 their towns 456 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:12,240 and the collective impact of people on 457 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:14,559 on the landscape we are not able to zoom 458 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:15,600 in 459 00:18:19,510 --> 00:18:17,440 and resolve uh your cell phone 460 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:19,520 definitely not 461 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:21,840 okay well that's good news uh we have a 462 00:18:31,909 --> 00:18:24,960 question from bbc news john amos go 463 00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:33,830 all right i'm not sure john we're not 464 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:36,160 hearing you if 465 00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:38,320 perhaps we could try that again 466 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:39,679 uh 467 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:43,840 okay let's do john try john amos again 468 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:45,840 hi steve can you hear me at all yes we 469 00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:48,400 got you now go 470 00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:51,039 okay i'll try and keep my question short 471 00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,840 um 472 00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:53,840 can you give us us an update on the 473 00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:56,160 status of of landsat 7 because i 474 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:04,070 uh this is matt larson with usgs landsat 475 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:07,120 7 continues to operate as it has for uh 476 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,160 quite a few years now with a 22 percent 477 00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:12,559 data gap in each image sort of a 478 00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:14,240 venetian blinds 479 00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:17,919 pattern but the other 78 of the data are 480 00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:21,520 there and our mission scientists at usgs 481 00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:23,120 and at nasa have 482 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:25,679 developed ways to mosaic images so that 483 00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:29,039 uh we have uh complete uh image coverage 484 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:31,919 uh from overlap of those images 485 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:34,480 you may be thinking also of landsat 5 486 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:37,120 which is about to come to its end in 487 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:38,240 another 488 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:41,039 week or so that mission has now reached 489 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:47,750 okay and we have another question on the 490 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:50,400 phone lines this from jeff tollefson at 491 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,909 hi there can you hear me yes 492 00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:58,710 um 493 00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:00,880 so yeah i guess uh i guess i was hoping 494 00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:03,120 for just a little bit more uh detail in 495 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:05,919 terms of kind of the the you've already 496 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,840 answered questions about the resolution 497 00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:09,120 but i guess i'm wondering about the 498 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,640 quality of the image 499 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:13,280 um in in terms of both the thermal and 500 00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:15,440 the optical i mean a lot of questions 501 00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:17,919 are out there uh in say tropical 502 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:21,280 deforestation that depend on on you know 503 00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:23,360 how many frequencies you're collecting 504 00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:25,039 at can you kind of go into that a little 505 00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:26,240 bit i mean 506 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,159 what will the quality of these images be 507 00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:30,480 like in addition to the quantity 508 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:33,760 absolutely the biggest improvement 509 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:36,320 of the sensors on ldcm 510 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:38,880 are that both sensors the oli and tiers 511 00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,679 use a push proof what we call push broom 512 00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:43,679 approach to imaging 513 00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:46,159 that is the images are collected by long 514 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:50,400 arrays that span the focal planes of the 515 00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:52,320 of the sensors 516 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:53,760 and 517 00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:55,520 every one of those arrays 518 00:20:59,310 --> 00:20:57,919 seven thousand over seven thousand per 519 00:21:02,390 --> 00:20:59,320 spectral band 520 00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,400 simultaneously collect data 521 00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:04,720 the previous landsat sensors were all 522 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:08,880 what we call wisp room sensors they used 523 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,110 scanned the 524 00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:17,760 field of view of just a few detectors 525 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:20,960 across the ground path of the satellite 526 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:22,960 and as a consequence those detectors 527 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:25,600 would only get a very short glimpse at 528 00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:27,440 each parcel of land 529 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,919 the detectors on oli and tiers get a 530 00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:30,960 longer 531 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,000 look at each parcel of land therefore 532 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,000 the quality of the data what we call 533 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:38,720 signal-to-noise ratio increases what 534 00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:41,440 that means what what that translates to 535 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:44,720 is the data from oli and tiers will be 536 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:47,120 more sensitive than the data from the 537 00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:53,270 okay our next question comes from randy 538 00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:54,559 shostak 539 00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:56,080 at the american geophysical union's 540 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,679 newspaper eos 541 00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:59,280 randy go ahead 542 00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:00,240 uh 543 00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,360 about to launch could you discuss the 544 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:07,520 future of the landsat satellites and the 545 00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:10,480 landsat program following ldcm 546 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:11,280 what 547 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:12,880 are the plans to 548 00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:14,960 to follow for follow-on satellites will 549 00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:16,720 landsat continue to be a stand-alone 550 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:18,480 satellite or what would it piggyback 551 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,870 thanks randy's matt larson that's an 552 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:26,400 excellent question it's one that we've 553 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:29,600 been working at hard uh with nasa with 554 00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:32,640 our colleagues at nasa between usgs 555 00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,280 interior and also with the white house 556 00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:37,520 office of science and technology policy 557 00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:39,840 so we've we're looking at some options 558 00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,240 and alternatives to how we move forward 559 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,480 beyond landsat 8 560 00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:46,720 and i'm optimistic they will that we 561 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:47,840 will 562 00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:50,720 reach some new new new capabilities new 563 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,960 agreements new arrangements a lot of 564 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:54,400 that of course is dependent on the 565 00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:56,799 federal budget and uh we're we're 566 00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,400 anxiously awaiting the release of the 567 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:01,120 2014 budget and what messages uh that 568 00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:02,799 will include and what we can then 569 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,430 okay i think that's our last question on 570 00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:09,280 the phone lines at the moment any other 571 00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:10,559 questions 572 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:13,280 in the audience here 573 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,200 we have nothing online at the moment so 574 00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:17,120 i guess that wraps up our briefing for 575 00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:18,080 today 576 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,799 uh 577 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,320 if you want more information on the 578 00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:22,960 landsat program as well as the ldcm 579 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:25,600 mission please visit our website which 580 00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:31,590 landsat and you can continue to follow 581 00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,039 the conversation all the way through 582 00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:34,559 launch on twitter 583 00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,919 with hashtag landsat 584 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:39,440 we'll leave you now with an animation 585 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,080 depicting the ldcm launch next month 586 00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:45,440 from vandenberg thank you for watching